TonusOH,
I speculate that it is a consequence of the nature of love, which must be given voluntarily.
How much is love worth if it is simply an artifact of programming?
My computer “loves” me, but it is not the same as a warm smile from my wife.
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
TonusOH,
I speculate that it is a consequence of the nature of love, which must be given voluntarily.
How much is love worth if it is simply an artifact of programming?
My computer “loves” me, but it is not the same as a warm smile from my wife.
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
If people are capable of committing sin, everyone suffers during their lives. They disappoint God and let him down frequently.
Not if they believe God. When a person accepts God's offer to make him / her a family member, God gives then a new spirit which cannot sin.
This is the "YOU" that God interacts with after regeneration. God is not disappointed in my new spirit he installed at salvation. This is the ultimate meaning of circumcision. The old spirit is sliced off, like a foreskin, and a new spirit is installed. This is called the circumcision of the heart.
Col. 2 - "For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, 10and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. 11In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
12having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands.
This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15He disarmed the rulers and authoritiesb and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him."
1 John 3: 9 - Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Deuteronomy 30:6 ESV
And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.
Romans 2:28-29 ESV
For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit...
jerry bergman, ph.d. .
the first american study.
the watchtower influence was often not positive, and there was no evidence that it had in the long run helped those who had emotional problems when they joined.
Bump
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
The new covenant is for the forgiveness of sins as clearly described in Mt. 26: 27–28
It is a blood covenant, to the death of both Signatories, the believer and Jesus. It is a permanent oath of irrevocable authenticity. Jesus mediates the problems that God and man have with one another, and with his own blood, comes up with a solution acceptable to both parties. Jesus substitutes his death penalty (that he didn’t deserve) for our death penalty (that we do deserve)
Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that they can get you into God’s Kingdom with out it, by some other way. Jesus says no:
“But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a man who had no wedding garment. 12 And he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13 Then the king said to the attendants, ‘Bind him hand and foot and cast him into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ - Mt 22: 11
And here:
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber… Then said Jesus…. I am the door". - John 10
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
You said: If the only possible outcome of exercising free will is catastrophe, what good is it?Moments before Eve sinned, she decided of her own free will not to believe God. That was within her agency to do so.
By contrast, Hundreds of Millions of people believe God, also out of their own free-will; especially after he resurrected himself from the dead, while he was dead. They now have eternal life as an inheritance, simply by believing God.
So, How can you claim that the only outcome of free will is catastrophe ?
normally we have a formula.
disaster, cue wt volunteers to the rescue, self congratulatory breaking news on jw.borg.
parts of spain are washed out with huge loss of life.
They are waiting for the insurance carriers to estimate the damages. Then the watchtower will come to the rescue with free labor and a final invoice for the restoration.
Remember, they bring food at the “proper time.”
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
TonusOH,
I can’t see a correlation between an inanimate product and beings with agency and free-will.
That’s a faulty comparison.
Are you saying God should have made people without free will?
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
1. He is the one who condemned us....
In other words, anything that happens is his fault.
I'm curious, why don't you apply this reasonig to our judges? If judges would simply stop making judgments, the payment for crimes would stop, right? It's so simple. Not.
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
The wages of sin is death. I definitely earned mine.
https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.
the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.
these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.
Rescue them from what?
Sin, Judgment & Death (eternal abandonment)